14-10-2023, 10:55 PM
Chaps,
This is the risk of allowing the discussion of certain topics where there's the potential for things to get heated.
Joe, you know that I share Mike's frustration with some of your posts in this thread. Certain groups with vested interests are all to quick to create misinformation about EVs, and it's a shame to see intelligent engineers repeat it with seemingly little research or critical thinking of their own. That might not be the case here, but what you've written suggests it, and that's not a good look. A bit more balance and consideration would help, please. And as I've already said - and you yourself have also mentioned - this is not Australia, so things are very different here. So why try to impose your views on EVs so strongly on us? Oh, and as we've also already covered, the point of connecting your phone to the car (via Bluetooth, so it automatically happens once initially paired) is to remove the need for people to touch their phones while driving (which is illegal in the UK, even when stopped in queuing traffic - you have to be "safely parked"). Calls can be totally hands-free, or rejected by just pressing a button on the steering wheel (or initiated or rejected via voice commands). This basic functionality is present on all modern vehicles, and has been for many years. More advanced functionality is (legally) available in many cars via the built in touchscreen, but you don't have to use it (I mostly don't, but it's a good way to get maps that are "live", as opposed to a stand-alone sat-nav). So let's drop that line of attack, please.
Mike, can I very gently remind you about Rule 2, please? Again, I share your frustration, but let's keep it family-friendly.
I don't want to close this thread, as there's no doubt EVs are an interesting topic. Even if we don't see ourselves owning one in the future, there's still lots of interesting areas for engineers to look into - the drive electronics, for example. In the same way that switched-mode power supplies drove the development of suitable switching transistors and control ICs, EVs are pushing that to the next level, which benefits other areas of power electronics. And the pace of battery technology development is being accelerated too, which will benefit other devices that we all own, like phones, tablets and laptops. All of this helps to drive the decarbonisation of energy, which is essential for obvious reasons. Even if you're personally planning to stick with fossil fuels, everyone is free to make their choices - but we're engineers, so let's try to be a bit more far-sighted as technology evolves.
This is the risk of allowing the discussion of certain topics where there's the potential for things to get heated.
Joe, you know that I share Mike's frustration with some of your posts in this thread. Certain groups with vested interests are all to quick to create misinformation about EVs, and it's a shame to see intelligent engineers repeat it with seemingly little research or critical thinking of their own. That might not be the case here, but what you've written suggests it, and that's not a good look. A bit more balance and consideration would help, please. And as I've already said - and you yourself have also mentioned - this is not Australia, so things are very different here. So why try to impose your views on EVs so strongly on us? Oh, and as we've also already covered, the point of connecting your phone to the car (via Bluetooth, so it automatically happens once initially paired) is to remove the need for people to touch their phones while driving (which is illegal in the UK, even when stopped in queuing traffic - you have to be "safely parked"). Calls can be totally hands-free, or rejected by just pressing a button on the steering wheel (or initiated or rejected via voice commands). This basic functionality is present on all modern vehicles, and has been for many years. More advanced functionality is (legally) available in many cars via the built in touchscreen, but you don't have to use it (I mostly don't, but it's a good way to get maps that are "live", as opposed to a stand-alone sat-nav). So let's drop that line of attack, please.
Mike, can I very gently remind you about Rule 2, please? Again, I share your frustration, but let's keep it family-friendly.
I don't want to close this thread, as there's no doubt EVs are an interesting topic. Even if we don't see ourselves owning one in the future, there's still lots of interesting areas for engineers to look into - the drive electronics, for example. In the same way that switched-mode power supplies drove the development of suitable switching transistors and control ICs, EVs are pushing that to the next level, which benefits other areas of power electronics. And the pace of battery technology development is being accelerated too, which will benefit other devices that we all own, like phones, tablets and laptops. All of this helps to drive the decarbonisation of energy, which is essential for obvious reasons. Even if you're personally planning to stick with fossil fuels, everyone is free to make their choices - but we're engineers, so let's try to be a bit more far-sighted as technology evolves.
