03-04-2023, 11:47 AM
Most of our iPhones SEs are second-hand, so not even refurbished. We've never had any issues at all. The original batteries are getting a bit tired now, but they are 7 years old. Each of them cost us a little over £100 each, about 4 years back. Can't argue with that!
Reading this thread brought back a bunch of memories - the main one being that while you usually get there in the end, there's a lot of faffing about with Android. I wonder if modern Android devices still need rebooting every couple of weeks - hopefully not.
I didn't choose to try Apple - it was a work decision to replace all Android phones with iPhones because of the costs and difficulties of securely supporting a huge number of devices running many different versions of Android. By the way, that decision, made in 2016, has saved the corporation a huge amount of your money - the up-front cost of the devices might be slightly higher, but the fact they are supported by the manufacturer with security updates for 6+ years means that we keep them for 3 times longer. Unless you have a special requirement - which needs to be signed off by several layers of senior management - then you only get an SE, which costs around £400, though of course we get a better price.
Anyway, I don't consider myself to be an Apple fan, and know nothing about their other products - therefore I don't have an opinion about them (I know it's old fashioned, but I try my best to avoid the trap of forming opinions on something I know little about, as that's prejudice). When the iPhone arrived, I approached it with an open mind, and it earned my respect by working well, being 100% reliable, and by being considerably cheaper in the long run. It's simply not factually correct to call an SE "overpriced". But then, saying "I'd not have any Apple device even in a gift" indicates a deeper opposition to Apple than just the price.
Anyway, glad you're getting there, Gary. My wife also struggles with technology, which is why we got her a second-hand iPhone to replace her old Android that was giving her no end of grief (about a year later we replaced her Android tablet with an iPad for the same reason). Despite iOS being more user-friendly, she still gets confused from time to time - there's no magic solution for some folk, sadly. But at least the kids can help her now...
Reading this thread brought back a bunch of memories - the main one being that while you usually get there in the end, there's a lot of faffing about with Android. I wonder if modern Android devices still need rebooting every couple of weeks - hopefully not.
I didn't choose to try Apple - it was a work decision to replace all Android phones with iPhones because of the costs and difficulties of securely supporting a huge number of devices running many different versions of Android. By the way, that decision, made in 2016, has saved the corporation a huge amount of your money - the up-front cost of the devices might be slightly higher, but the fact they are supported by the manufacturer with security updates for 6+ years means that we keep them for 3 times longer. Unless you have a special requirement - which needs to be signed off by several layers of senior management - then you only get an SE, which costs around £400, though of course we get a better price.
Anyway, I don't consider myself to be an Apple fan, and know nothing about their other products - therefore I don't have an opinion about them (I know it's old fashioned, but I try my best to avoid the trap of forming opinions on something I know little about, as that's prejudice). When the iPhone arrived, I approached it with an open mind, and it earned my respect by working well, being 100% reliable, and by being considerably cheaper in the long run. It's simply not factually correct to call an SE "overpriced". But then, saying "I'd not have any Apple device even in a gift" indicates a deeper opposition to Apple than just the price.
Anyway, glad you're getting there, Gary. My wife also struggles with technology, which is why we got her a second-hand iPhone to replace her old Android that was giving her no end of grief (about a year later we replaced her Android tablet with an iPad for the same reason). Despite iOS being more user-friendly, she still gets confused from time to time - there's no magic solution for some folk, sadly. But at least the kids can help her now...
