06-05-2012, 01:38 AM
I install rising antivirus or people.. it's free and it's silent.. and I haevn't had any callbacks to clean or repair malware damage since switching over. Avast and AVG seem to come and go.. one year Avast is best, the next it's AVG.. They both work better than any paid ones I have come across. I think 2 infected with avg and one with avast in the last year compared to over 100 with norton/macafee paid which were riddled..
My only gripe with Rising is how long it can take to update after first installation, but after that is set to "ask" it rarely gets in the way.. it's very "quiet" in operation and doesnt get overly paranoid (unlike those which demand to scan and check every file and click all the time) .. I hate windows.. I don't run antivirus.. I do a check for rootkits every so often and keep a system image rolling every week, which I do because it's a habit.. never needed it .. laptops I don't bother.. they mess up I reinstall because I don't lose my /home partition when I do.
A friend was using bitdefender (he got it free from some shop) and that wasn't really secure either.. quite a lot of "trojan downloader generic win32" in there when it crashed out.. Well embedded.. took a session with puppy and google and a clean regisrty patching in from my "never connected to anything" xp drive.
I'm not saying paid antivirus is rubbish.. just if it's so good why do you need to buy a new one every year, and why do us fixers always see machines with the paid ones on rendered non functional by malware whe ones running free ones are generally still working even if compromised?
Of course.. if you know what you are doing heres a unix one built for servers and the like which are connected and on unmonitored 24/7 clamav (winclam) .. a bit hands on, but tests last year were scary.. it was the ONLY antivirus solution with a 100% detection rate.. symantec/macafee barely got to 50%.. and more worryingly they missed the really bad guys.. the rootkits and hidden webserver bots (lost my link to results.. google should turn it up easy enough).. Windows search can expose hidden malware.. try a search for hid*.ex* and look for hide
.. on xp for extra security.. go in system32 and make csrss.exe "read only" .. it's a vulnerability targetted by a lot of email malware.
http://download.cnet.com/ClamWin-Antivir...69483.html
http://download.cnet.com/ClamWin-Antivir...69483.html
Two very viable alternatives. I install both depending on the competency of the end user.. Clam takes a bit more knowhow than Rising, but I think if people are interested in what goes on inside the case.. and aren't we all like that here... then it's the choice.
My only gripe with Rising is how long it can take to update after first installation, but after that is set to "ask" it rarely gets in the way.. it's very "quiet" in operation and doesnt get overly paranoid (unlike those which demand to scan and check every file and click all the time) .. I hate windows.. I don't run antivirus.. I do a check for rootkits every so often and keep a system image rolling every week, which I do because it's a habit.. never needed it .. laptops I don't bother.. they mess up I reinstall because I don't lose my /home partition when I do.
A friend was using bitdefender (he got it free from some shop) and that wasn't really secure either.. quite a lot of "trojan downloader generic win32" in there when it crashed out.. Well embedded.. took a session with puppy and google and a clean regisrty patching in from my "never connected to anything" xp drive.
I'm not saying paid antivirus is rubbish.. just if it's so good why do you need to buy a new one every year, and why do us fixers always see machines with the paid ones on rendered non functional by malware whe ones running free ones are generally still working even if compromised?
Of course.. if you know what you are doing heres a unix one built for servers and the like which are connected and on unmonitored 24/7 clamav (winclam) .. a bit hands on, but tests last year were scary.. it was the ONLY antivirus solution with a 100% detection rate.. symantec/macafee barely got to 50%.. and more worryingly they missed the really bad guys.. the rootkits and hidden webserver bots (lost my link to results.. google should turn it up easy enough).. Windows search can expose hidden malware.. try a search for hid*.ex* and look for hide
.. on xp for extra security.. go in system32 and make csrss.exe "read only" .. it's a vulnerability targetted by a lot of email malware.http://download.cnet.com/ClamWin-Antivir...69483.html
http://download.cnet.com/ClamWin-Antivir...69483.html
Two very viable alternatives. I install both depending on the competency of the end user.. Clam takes a bit more knowhow than Rising, but I think if people are interested in what goes on inside the case.. and aren't we all like that here... then it's the choice.
