14-02-2013, 11:01 AM
Hi,
Many thanks for adding both posts Gary which open up even more questions.
Yes a steady hand would be needed if free handing a cutout for an inlay and your suggestion of gaining practice first on samples makes a lot of sense; having spent many hours bringing a cabinet up to the point of adding an inlay then making a mess of cutting the opening would be soul destroying; a lot depends on the individual though; I'm not the clumsy sort and have a steady hand so I would have gone straight ahead to cut out for the fan inlay but then again I am doing this cabinet for practice and to gain experience.
Adding an inlay into a curve would be more difficult as you say Gary because simply veneering a curve is enough to scare many away from attempting it but again it comes down to determination and I think it could be done but only with secure clamping after glue up otherwise the inlay would simply detach as it dried out. An interesting idea though and some day I might even attempt it.
A router is a very versatile bit of kit Gary; I'm now using my router more than ever; I have two routers a B&D 1100W which is my small router and the one I've used to date but recently I bought a monster at 2100W for heavy work and installing into a router table once I can get around to making the table.
http://www.screwfix.com/p/erbauer-erb380...240v/81664
http://www.screwfix.com/p/direct-power-d...0836239814
I bought my big router from Screwfix at an incredible price as shown in the top link above. The lower link shows how getting into routing won't break the bank; the smaller router will do lots of tasks but if a lot of material needs removing it will take a number of bites. Each time I use my router I like it a bit more.
What beautiful furniture Gary in the pictures; this quality really is something to aspire to but I'm up to having a go; not for mass production but just for my own satisfaction. I'm slowly gaining experience and hopefully some day everything will come together allowing me to produce something I can be proud of but in the meantime I'm enjoying learning.
I still have a long way to go in achieving the joints as shown in the radio cabinet picture you added Gary which are simply perfect
Veneering or Marquetry is a good question Gary. Marquetry is actually veneering as veneer is being laid but as a built up picture made from many small pieces of veneer which differentiates the two terms. Generally veneering is referred to when laying larger pieces of veneer even though these are many times arranged as a pattern taking advantage of the grain such as book matching; quartering and cross banding etc. cross banding is nearer Marquetry because strips of veneer are used but then of course other terms are also used such as stringing and Parquetry.
Cross banding can be done using a single veneer but also it can be made very decorative by building up a pattern the pattern being only limited by imagination.
Parquetry is the kind of veneering seen on chess boards as the pattern is geometric and where thin wood veneer is being used I think everyone would understand the term veneering even if they had not heard of Marquetry; Parquetry; cross banding; inlays or stringing as veneering is a common term. Browse eBay for Veneers though and dental veneers also appear. Veneer can loosely be described as an overlay attached with adhesive.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parquetry
Below is an interesting video showing Parquetry but this guy is cutting his own "veneer" from solid timber but generally standard wood veneers are used in contrasting colours; these colours can be natural to the veneer or colour can be added. The technique though is clearly shown and again the geometric patterns are only limited by imagination.
Veneering is a vast subject and one I'm very interested in; I'm sure I can find enough to occupy me a lifetime as I delve deeper into veneering gaining more experience and knowledge; I've now done a few veneering projects but I'm still scratching around with the basics; for anyone used to veneering my humble attempts will appear childish but to me they are my building blocks to improving after all we usually start at the beginning?
Whatever term is used for veneering I would encourage anyone to have a go because it can be so rewarding.
Time I got something useful done because I think summer has arrived; today's forecast is for a sweltering 8 degrees and I don't want to miss it.
Kind regards, Col.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xixiazkpqt4
Many thanks for adding both posts Gary which open up even more questions.
Yes a steady hand would be needed if free handing a cutout for an inlay and your suggestion of gaining practice first on samples makes a lot of sense; having spent many hours bringing a cabinet up to the point of adding an inlay then making a mess of cutting the opening would be soul destroying; a lot depends on the individual though; I'm not the clumsy sort and have a steady hand so I would have gone straight ahead to cut out for the fan inlay but then again I am doing this cabinet for practice and to gain experience.
Adding an inlay into a curve would be more difficult as you say Gary because simply veneering a curve is enough to scare many away from attempting it but again it comes down to determination and I think it could be done but only with secure clamping after glue up otherwise the inlay would simply detach as it dried out. An interesting idea though and some day I might even attempt it.
A router is a very versatile bit of kit Gary; I'm now using my router more than ever; I have two routers a B&D 1100W which is my small router and the one I've used to date but recently I bought a monster at 2100W for heavy work and installing into a router table once I can get around to making the table.
http://www.screwfix.com/p/erbauer-erb380...240v/81664
http://www.screwfix.com/p/direct-power-d...0836239814
I bought my big router from Screwfix at an incredible price as shown in the top link above. The lower link shows how getting into routing won't break the bank; the smaller router will do lots of tasks but if a lot of material needs removing it will take a number of bites. Each time I use my router I like it a bit more.
What beautiful furniture Gary in the pictures; this quality really is something to aspire to but I'm up to having a go; not for mass production but just for my own satisfaction. I'm slowly gaining experience and hopefully some day everything will come together allowing me to produce something I can be proud of but in the meantime I'm enjoying learning.
I still have a long way to go in achieving the joints as shown in the radio cabinet picture you added Gary which are simply perfect
Veneering or Marquetry is a good question Gary. Marquetry is actually veneering as veneer is being laid but as a built up picture made from many small pieces of veneer which differentiates the two terms. Generally veneering is referred to when laying larger pieces of veneer even though these are many times arranged as a pattern taking advantage of the grain such as book matching; quartering and cross banding etc. cross banding is nearer Marquetry because strips of veneer are used but then of course other terms are also used such as stringing and Parquetry.
Cross banding can be done using a single veneer but also it can be made very decorative by building up a pattern the pattern being only limited by imagination.
Parquetry is the kind of veneering seen on chess boards as the pattern is geometric and where thin wood veneer is being used I think everyone would understand the term veneering even if they had not heard of Marquetry; Parquetry; cross banding; inlays or stringing as veneering is a common term. Browse eBay for Veneers though and dental veneers also appear. Veneer can loosely be described as an overlay attached with adhesive.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parquetry
Below is an interesting video showing Parquetry but this guy is cutting his own "veneer" from solid timber but generally standard wood veneers are used in contrasting colours; these colours can be natural to the veneer or colour can be added. The technique though is clearly shown and again the geometric patterns are only limited by imagination.
Veneering is a vast subject and one I'm very interested in; I'm sure I can find enough to occupy me a lifetime as I delve deeper into veneering gaining more experience and knowledge; I've now done a few veneering projects but I'm still scratching around with the basics; for anyone used to veneering my humble attempts will appear childish but to me they are my building blocks to improving after all we usually start at the beginning?
Whatever term is used for veneering I would encourage anyone to have a go because it can be so rewarding.
Time I got something useful done because I think summer has arrived; today's forecast is for a sweltering 8 degrees and I don't want to miss it.
Kind regards, Col.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xixiazkpqt4
Happiness is a wreck of a cabinet to restore.







