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How much does it really cost to run an electric car?

I have been running a PHEV since 2018 but went fully Electric in June 2023.

When working out running costs for EV's it tends to be easiest to work out Pence per mile rather than MPG.

So lets start with a reasonable comparison a similar size vehicle I owned between 2014 and 2018 my Honda CRV 1.6 Diesel ( a really great vehicle).

It averaged about 60MPG even with me driving.

Current Diesel price assume £1.336 /L or more or less £6 per gallon.

At that rate forgetting all other costs 10P per mile.

EVs its all down to Pence/KW

My car does around 4 Miles/KW and if I charge at home off peak using Smart charging is 7p per KWH (Octopus)

That gives me less than 2p per mile.

If I go on a long trip and have to use public charging then I can expect anywhere up to 75p/KWH

Tesla superchargers are much cheaper at typically  40p/KWH or 10P/Mile

If you take the overall over a period of time  most journeys I don't need the public network so overall its around 3.5p per mile in the last 12 moths including a trips to Glasgow, March(Cambridgeshire), Southampton  and 2 trips to St Helens 

I have  a home charger Tesla Wall Charger 7.6 KW 

The Octopus scheme try's to achieve you're  set limit  so I get a minimum of 5 hours but often as many as 7 hours at 7.6 KW/H.

Along with Service periods being typically 50'000 miles+ once you get over the purchase price EV's can be very cheap to run.

Tonight my car will only charge for less than 1 hour  as that's all that's needed top it up.

Cheers

Mike T]]>
How much does it really cost to run an electric car?

I have been running a PHEV since 2018 but went fully Electric in June 2023.

When working out running costs for EV's it tends to be easiest to work out Pence per mile rather than MPG.

So lets start with a reasonable comparison a similar size vehicle I owned between 2014 and 2018 my Honda CRV 1.6 Diesel ( a really great vehicle).

It averaged about 60MPG even with me driving.

Current Diesel price assume £1.336 /L or more or less £6 per gallon.

At that rate forgetting all other costs 10P per mile.

EVs its all down to Pence/KW

My car does around 4 Miles/KW and if I charge at home off peak using Smart charging is 7p per KWH (Octopus)

That gives me less than 2p per mile.

If I go on a long trip and have to use public charging then I can expect anywhere up to 75p/KWH

Tesla superchargers are much cheaper at typically  40p/KWH or 10P/Mile

If you take the overall over a period of time  most journeys I don't need the public network so overall its around 3.5p per mile in the last 12 moths including a trips to Glasgow, March(Cambridgeshire), Southampton  and 2 trips to St Helens 

I have  a home charger Tesla Wall Charger 7.6 KW 

The Octopus scheme try's to achieve you're  set limit  so I get a minimum of 5 hours but often as many as 7 hours at 7.6 KW/H.

Along with Service periods being typically 50'000 miles+ once you get over the purchase price EV's can be very cheap to run.

Tonight my car will only charge for less than 1 hour  as that's all that's needed top it up.

Cheers

Mike T]]> https://golbornevintageradio.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?tid=9263 Tue, 21 May 2024 21:08:05 +0000 Murphyv310]]> https://golbornevintageradio.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?tid=9263
For a while I've been considering getting something different to potter with. I had many ideas from an Austin 7 to my old friend a rear engined Skoda. I even pot in a few £20 shots on Retroshite to no avail.
Our friend Bob Howe though told me of a Lomax 224 on Ebay, it was sitting at £1609 when I looked I bidded late and won it for £1659.
The car was in Wigan and had been in a dry garage for 5 years.
The seller had fitted new plugs recently, changed the oil and filter, fitted a new petrol tank and fuel lines.
The problem was getting it here with shiply looking for over £1000. A stroke for luck came about that the seller could get it on a return tractor shipment to Annan which is 88 miles to me.

I Collected the car on Saturday, no breakdowns but performance was way down. New points, valve clearances now adjusted and exhaust leaks sorted have cured the low power.
A lot of wiring to redo but its brilliant fun. Has the Visa 652cc engine and a 5 speed box from the GSA rather the 602cc and four speeds..
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For a while I've been considering getting something different to potter with. I had many ideas from an Austin 7 to my old friend a rear engined Skoda. I even pot in a few £20 shots on Retroshite to no avail.
Our friend Bob Howe though told me of a Lomax 224 on Ebay, it was sitting at £1609 when I looked I bidded late and won it for £1659.
The car was in Wigan and had been in a dry garage for 5 years.
The seller had fitted new plugs recently, changed the oil and filter, fitted a new petrol tank and fuel lines.
The problem was getting it here with shiply looking for over £1000. A stroke for luck came about that the seller could get it on a return tractor shipment to Annan which is 88 miles to me.

I Collected the car on Saturday, no breakdowns but performance was way down. New points, valve clearances now adjusted and exhaust leaks sorted have cured the low power.
A lot of wiring to redo but its brilliant fun. Has the Visa 652cc engine and a 5 speed box from the GSA rather the 602cc and four speeds..
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https://www.ispotnature.org/communities/...the-engine]]> The suspect might be a tree rat. The driver was lucky the wiring or brake lines did not get chewed.
https://www.ispotnature.org/communities/...the-engine]]> https://golbornevintageradio.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?tid=9120 Mon, 16 Oct 2023 22:05:55 +0000 Cobaltblue]]> https://golbornevintageradio.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?tid=9120
Like Many here I started driving in the 1970's ( I know that some here it would be even earlier the 50's and 60's) in what were essentially 1950/60's cars.

Mechanically and Electrically these cars by modern standards were pretty simple you could get them moving by stealing one of your wife's stockings clearing the jets in the carb or cleaning the sparkplugs all with simple tools.

In the last 20 years cars have become massively inundated with  electronics, expensive and often not user serviceable parts.

I was maintaining our cars up until the early noughties ( Avengers, Rovers, Mini's, Austin 1100's Vauxhall Chevettes, Cavaliers), although maintaining my wife's Cavalier GSI could be a struggle with the non re-usable stretch bolts and the tools needed to replace the tiny handbrake shoes in the rear hub all a challenge for the home mechanic. 

When In 1999 I got my Mondeo ST200 and in 2003 my wife bought a new Corsa I pretty much threw in the towel.

Now we are in an era of flux alternative fuels such as hydrogen and EV.

It struck me that what we all consider the norm was alien to our forebears when the horseless carriage started to frighten the horses and change entire village town and city life.

Skills handed down of smithing, horsemanship, stabling and carriage making and repair were suddenly redundant.

And here we are again.

One of the worst things about EV cars is range anxiety and I am sure 100 years ago our forebears had the same issues. Where to get Fuel/Power on a long journey.

Not like a horse where you can turn it out into a field for a few hours, It'll never catch on!

This is one of the areas where Tesla has an acknowledged edge. The supercharger network there are 46 in Exeter alone.

This isn't an advert for Tesla, I would say as a car it's technically brilliant but as an (older) driver somewhat lacking in the things I have been accustomed to in the last 25 years.

I went out for a meal with my wife (my birthday)  and on the way home I stopped off to charge the car as I am going to see an old friend tomorrow.

This is what it looks like for those interested.


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I limited the charge to just over 60% when we arrived the battery was at 10%.

The charge started at 198KW rate and was already tapering when I took the pic.

The problem is Dorset for instance doesn't have any electricity ( With apologies to those Dorset born and breed) They chew straws and go about their business on horseback. Superchargers=0

So there you have it a change no more welcome that 100 years ago?

All constructive post and that includes anti EV providing its first hand not the usual tropes.

And yes EV's are still expensive but hopefully that will soon change.

Cheers

Mike T]]>
Like Many here I started driving in the 1970's ( I know that some here it would be even earlier the 50's and 60's) in what were essentially 1950/60's cars.

Mechanically and Electrically these cars by modern standards were pretty simple you could get them moving by stealing one of your wife's stockings clearing the jets in the carb or cleaning the sparkplugs all with simple tools.

In the last 20 years cars have become massively inundated with  electronics, expensive and often not user serviceable parts.

I was maintaining our cars up until the early noughties ( Avengers, Rovers, Mini's, Austin 1100's Vauxhall Chevettes, Cavaliers), although maintaining my wife's Cavalier GSI could be a struggle with the non re-usable stretch bolts and the tools needed to replace the tiny handbrake shoes in the rear hub all a challenge for the home mechanic. 

When In 1999 I got my Mondeo ST200 and in 2003 my wife bought a new Corsa I pretty much threw in the towel.

Now we are in an era of flux alternative fuels such as hydrogen and EV.

It struck me that what we all consider the norm was alien to our forebears when the horseless carriage started to frighten the horses and change entire village town and city life.

Skills handed down of smithing, horsemanship, stabling and carriage making and repair were suddenly redundant.

And here we are again.

One of the worst things about EV cars is range anxiety and I am sure 100 years ago our forebears had the same issues. Where to get Fuel/Power on a long journey.

Not like a horse where you can turn it out into a field for a few hours, It'll never catch on!

This is one of the areas where Tesla has an acknowledged edge. The supercharger network there are 46 in Exeter alone.

This isn't an advert for Tesla, I would say as a car it's technically brilliant but as an (older) driver somewhat lacking in the things I have been accustomed to in the last 25 years.

I went out for a meal with my wife (my birthday)  and on the way home I stopped off to charge the car as I am going to see an old friend tomorrow.

This is what it looks like for those interested.


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I limited the charge to just over 60% when we arrived the battery was at 10%.

The charge started at 198KW rate and was already tapering when I took the pic.

The problem is Dorset for instance doesn't have any electricity ( With apologies to those Dorset born and breed) They chew straws and go about their business on horseback. Superchargers=0

So there you have it a change no more welcome that 100 years ago?

All constructive post and that includes anti EV providing its first hand not the usual tropes.

And yes EV's are still expensive but hopefully that will soon change.

Cheers

Mike T]]> https://golbornevintageradio.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?tid=9012 Wed, 12 Apr 2023 10:59:49 +0000 peter scott]]> https://golbornevintageradio.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?tid=9012

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Peter]]> https://golbornevintageradio.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?tid=9011 Mon, 10 Apr 2023 14:26:23 +0000 bobhowe]]> https://golbornevintageradio.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?tid=9011 https://golbornevintageradio.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?tid=8984 Tue, 28 Feb 2023 20:56:20 +0000 peter scott]]> https://golbornevintageradio.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?tid=8984
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Peter ]]> https://golbornevintageradio.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?tid=8969 Fri, 27 Jan 2023 10:15:33 +0000 peter scott]]> https://golbornevintageradio.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?tid=8969
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOlqWFr6...d%26Racing

Peter]]>
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Peter]]> https://golbornevintageradio.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?tid=8918 Sun, 30 Oct 2022 23:36:18 +0000 bobhowe]]> https://golbornevintageradio.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?tid=8918 https://golbornevintageradio.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?tid=8620 Fri, 22 Oct 2021 11:26:49 +0000 boater sam]]> https://golbornevintageradio.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?tid=8620
As I don't use it often, paying a fortune for a new model seems silly, better to get a good used one and reuse.

There are a confusing array of makers and older models available.

Any recommendations please.]]>
As I don't use it often, paying a fortune for a new model seems silly, better to get a good used one and reuse.

There are a confusing array of makers and older models available.

Any recommendations please.]]> https://golbornevintageradio.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?tid=8593 Fri, 01 Oct 2021 16:24:31 +0000 peter scott]]> https://golbornevintageradio.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?tid=8593
After a bit I noticed a little green synbol in the instrument panel consisting of two straight lines angled inwards at the top with another dotted vertical line in between them and it dawned on me that this was a deliberate "fault" to persuade me not to change lanes. I assume to wake me up if I wandered out of lane unintentionally. After reaching our destination I discoved that there appear to be two of these nanny state features. One called Lane Assist which I turned off and the other called Front Assist and it cautioned me not to turn that off and I'm not sure I know what it seeks to control.

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After a bit I noticed a little green synbol in the instrument panel consisting of two straight lines angled inwards at the top with another dotted vertical line in between them and it dawned on me that this was a deliberate "fault" to persuade me not to change lanes. I assume to wake me up if I wandered out of lane unintentionally. After reaching our destination I discoved that there appear to be two of these nanny state features. One called Lane Assist which I turned off and the other called Front Assist and it cautioned me not to turn that off and I'm not sure I know what it seeks to control.

Peter ]]> https://golbornevintageradio.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?tid=8582 Tue, 28 Sep 2021 12:56:05 +0000 peter scott]]> https://golbornevintageradio.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?tid=8582 early motoring experiences.

Peter]]> early motoring experiences.

Peter]]> https://golbornevintageradio.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?tid=8554 Mon, 13 Sep 2021 11:16:38 +0000 bobhowe]]> https://golbornevintageradio.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?tid=8554