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I've been building a superhet radio with Russian rod pentodes this year, inspired by some of the posts by Trevor (Murphyv310) and Mike Watterson. The aim is a no-compromise, high-end design - and one of the issues I faced is provision for automatic volume or gain control.

I ended up with something which holds the output rock-steady between 1mV and 230mV RF input, and within 3db between 500μV and 500mV – that’s a 60db range.

Unlike pentodes with helically-wound grids (DL31, DL96, 1T4 etc) these little valves don't come in variable-μ flavours. I suspect it is theoretically possible (tapered or curved rods?) but I guess it's just too difficult to manufacture!

Anyway! To include AVC, two matters need to be dealt with. One is electronic control of gain; the other is deriving a control voltage or current.

For the first, some gain control is possible by varying grid bias. But, reducing gain by taking the grid nearer cut-off, reduces signal handling ability, just when we need it more. So this is a non-starter.

Varying filament voltage would probably work, but I don't like under-running filaments unless I can reduce other voltages and currents too, to avoid operating the valve in saturation-limited conditions.

Varying the screen voltage does work, and well. But it has the effect of reducing the cut-off voltage, thus reduces signal-handling capacity, though not so severely as biasing g1 more negative.

Applying negative voltage to the suppressor affects the balance between screen-grid current and anode-current, thus potentially reducing gain to anode. Unfortunately, it has the side-effect of reducing anode resistance, thus damping any anode tuned circuit the more, and reducing selectivity.

The strategy adopted was a combination of screen and suppressor control, and having comparatively low impedance tank circuits in the anode, damped by resistors to give the selectivity I wanted, so that the variable ra damping is swamped anyway. The consequential lower gain is overcome by having two IF valves (they're plentiful and cheap!), this also has the benefit that only moderate gain variation in each stage (10:1) is needed to give a large variation overall (100:1).

So, how to derive a control voltage? Several tens of volts swing is needed (+10 to +40V on screen-grid, and -20 to 0V on suppressors), so considerable amplification must be provided. And the screens take some hundreds of μA. I didn't want the AVC circuit loading the audio detector, and possibly causing distortion, so I used a buffer IF amplifier to isolate.

First attempt was to use an anode-bend detector, biased-off as a delay voltage. This worked, but the control voltage was modulation-dependent (note that the traditional double-diode triode topology suffers from this defect too). So I changed to a leaky-grid detector, filtering-out the audio with a (very) low-pass filter. This gives a control voltage of the wrong sense, so I then had to use another valve to invert it. But, it gives as a bonus additional DC amplification. I introduced the delay voltage at this point. With huge gain available, the circuit is capable of holding the output at a highly constant level even with big changes of input. Tracy (BusyBee) had considered an op-amp in one of his/her posts: this performs equivalently.

Eyebrows may be raised at the -60V bias line, but it's needed for other stages... And at very low power. It's easily derived from the heavily-screened and filtered switchmode converter which powers the whole thing from a 12V SLA battery.

I also fed some control voltage to the frequency changer (a single-balanced mixer using a pair of rod pentodes, with a third rod pentode as local oscillator driving suppressors in antiphase). Cutting gain in early stages prevents overloading in later stages – the final IF stage has only partial AVC applied to the screen. Of course, for lower-level signals it’s better to run early stages at full gain and then cut it in later stages because then you gut the noise too. It’s all a compromise!

Performance?

I ran a couple of tests: static audio output versus RF input, using a modulated RF generator and precision attenuator; and dynamic response by switching the RF input between two levels (6db apart) and examining how the output recovered to its controlled level (the 'scope photo shows: Upper trace, RF input; Lower trace, AF output from detector).

See below for circuits, and results.

Comments invited!
A brilliant alternative approach. I knew you were following this approach but didn't know you had got this far. I had a little look yesterday and further today as it will take a while for me to get my head around things.

I must admit I prefer to keep things in simplified blocks and, having limited test facilities, I will not likely produce anything this involved. I have done some tests, a while ago, with the 1j37b using one grid for control so for a pure rod pentode circuit I would more likely go that way. It's perhaps the only point I would make but it doesn't detract from your excellent work.

Tracy
I was planning just on using a DC amp on a diode detector to drive g2. The manual "RF gain" control on one of my Hallicrafter sets is simply a pot varying HT on an IF 1T4 g2! It may vary g2 on other 1T4s. I decided that though the Russians used the 1j37b for AGC that it was rather heavy on filament current.

Your approach sounds interesting Kalee
(08-10-2021, 12:35 PM)Mike Watterson Wrote: [ -> ]I was planning just on using a DC amp on a diode detector to drive g2...

Your approach sounds interesting Kalee


Thanks! Mine's almost that, but a DC amp following a leaky-grid detector. And with a preceding buffer.


(08-10-2021, 11:52 AM)BusyBee Wrote: [ -> ]I knew you were following this approach but didn't know you had got this far.


As another Forum member might have said: Acta, non verba Smile


(08-10-2021, 11:52 AM)BusyBee Wrote: [ -> ]I must admit I prefer to keep things in simplified blocks


Me too, I have the IF amplifier and the AVC module on separate pieces of matrix board, see photos below. and you'll notice in the circuit of the AVC module, I indicated the separate sub-blocks.



(08-10-2021, 11:52 AM)BusyBee Wrote: [ -> ] ... having limited test facilities ...


Yes. I'd have been scuppered without test equipment. I used a 'scope (obviously!), a basic AM signal generator (AVO all-wave oscillator), and a frequency counter. And I put together a precision attenuator using twelve cascaded toroidal autotransformers (small ferrite toroids); a sweep generator for optimising the IF passband response; a dynamic AVC tester with RF amplitude switching between two levels (a multivibrator driving a small relay switching between two taps on an RF transformer); and an RF ramped-amplitude generator with linear ramp-up to assess linearity of the detectors. This latter was a hybrid using solid-state ramp generator and modulator, but with an Amīcatron oscillator circuit, which of course uses a valve.

Incidentally, before attempting to gain-control the frequency changer, I did hook up the frequency counter to the local oscillator and swung the frequency-changer's g2 around to see if it detuned the oscillator. It didn't (at least, by not more than a couple of tens of Hz).
Brilliant work Peter.
Watching this with interest.
Once complete you'll need to upload a video onto YouTube with a band scan and views of the electronics. This I must see.
A video is planned, Trevor... but won't be for at least a couple of weeks. I'm doing a few tweaks to the power supply at the moment!