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OldTickTock

Cheers Rob just ordered one, I've been meaning to construct one but at that price hardly seems worth it now. I will let you know what it's like when it arrives, great find.

Chris
Are we saying that the one offered for £18.00 is the Anatek one, which - at the link provided - is on sale in the States for $233? If so, it's a bargain - if not, what exactly is the 'Capacitor Wizard' from the Sheffield firm? (No spec or description).

Just interested.

David.

OldTickTock

I've no idea David, I doubt it's the U.S. one but thought it was worth a punt for £18, well with postage £20.37. It might be a kit who knows. I will let you all know and post pics when it arrives. Most i've been looking at are around £70, I fully expect to be disappointed but also ever the optimist

Chris

ucl82

Like David I built this one http://members.shaw.ca/swstuff/esrmeter.html and it was a nice little project and cost about £10 in total to make. Not only is it a very useful bit of equipment but you also have the satisfaction in knowing you built it yourself.
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(09-07-2011, 04:02 PM)ucl82 Wrote: [ -> ]Like David I built this one http://members.shaw.ca/swstuff/esrmeter.html and it was a nice little project and cost about £10 in total to make. Not only is it a very useful bit of equipment but you also have the satisfaction in knowing you built it yourself.

I refined the original circuit and PCB layout over time, based on feedback from others such as Josh & Rob, making it easier to build and adjust than the original design, and I know that scores of them have been built, as I've helped many people who've had trouble getting it to work. I've also built about 20 myself for friends, and they work first time if built with care. Even if all the parts are bought new, including the 50uA meter, (except for the case and PCB) it can be built for under ten pounds. It's a nice little project too, which soon earns its keep, and although a scope isn't essential, if one is to hand, the project is instructive as to what happens at various points in the circuit when the waveform is observed on the scope. Like almost all ESR meters, it works on the basis of an oscillator running at a frequency of about 100kHz (actual frequency unimprtant) being applied to a capacitor under test, with the results of the effective series resistance of the cap displayed on an expanded scale meter.

There isn't a reliable test for electrolytics other than an ESR meter, because if tested on a capacitance meter alone, the cap may look fine, but may still have a high ESR. Admittedly this is of limited interest in valve radios, whih generally only have two smoothing caps and perhaps a 25uF 25V cathode by-pass cap in the output stage, but its useful in transistor radios, TVs, and particularly switched mode PSUs, all of which use lots of small electrolytics which develop a high ESR as they dry out over time.

I wrote a very detailed post at the thread below - so detailed that it probably put off more people than it encouraged! However, it's bascially a very simple design - one IC of which one gate is used along with a resistor and capacitor for the oscillator circuit, the other five gates of the IC form a buffer/low pass filter, then the square wave is amplified by a 2N2222 transistor. Just a handful of components, all of which apart from the LED and on/off switch are mounted on the PCB. (see the pic of the completed PCB at the link to my posting below)

If any forum members do have a go at that project, and get stuck, I'll be happy to help in troubleshooting.

http://golbornevintageradio.co.uk/forum/thread-411.html

David.

I'll be interested to learn what the other 'cap wizard' jobby is like when it arrives - it seems a bargain on the face of things!






Bluebottle

(09-07-2011, 03:32 PM)OldTickTock Wrote: [ -> ]I've no idea David, I doubt it's the U.S. one but thought it was worth a punt for £18, well with postage £20.37. It might be a kit who knows. I will let you all know and post pics when it arrives. Most i've been looking at are around £70, I fully expect to be disappointed but also ever the optimist

Chris

I've ordered one as well, so we'll be disappointed together .....................

Mike 8^)

OldTickTock

Just had my order cancelled by Irwin Electronics, they say they no longer have stock.

At least I got a refund, I was thinking after I had ordered it was a waste of money as I would probably never use it as I use my Hunts bridge to determine my caps health and that can do all caps, not just electros, so alls well and ends well.

Mental note to self, must remember in future to resist impulse buys Wink

Chris

Bluebottle

(11-07-2011, 10:45 AM)OldTickTock Wrote: [ -> ]Just had my order cancelled by Irwin Electronics, they say they no longer have stock.

ditto